Yet more Comp mods

OK, this is getting sad. I’ve got a week’s holiday but we’re staying at home. This morning I popped down to the Post Office to return my Exos 58; I’ll keep you in touch with progress. I also had some brain waves to try on the Laser Competition. So stand by for some more tweaks.

I was reading Geoff’s account of his latest trip and he mentioned how difficult it is to use the tensioners at the end of the inner when they are at the end of their travel. Cue lateral thinking. Why not attach a loop so they are easier to pull? Hey presto! I have some thin Dyneema cord (black and white) that I bought from Bob and Rose as emergency cord. It was thin enough to thread through the loop on the tape, making tensioning much easier, picture below, problem solved.

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There are no real venting options on the Comp. While I didn’t have much problem with condensation recently, as it was reasonably windy, one thing I thought about was using a longer end pole. It just so happens that I have the carbon stays that came with the Mariposa (I now use flexible nylon stays) and they seemed worth experimenting with. For reference they are very slightly lighter than the existing Comp end poles (10g vs. 11g) and 6cms longer at 50cm. The theory behind using these is to lift the flysheet a bit higher so breezes can get underneath the flysheet. As you can see it’s quite effective.

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 However, there is a drawback; they produce quite a lot of tension at the top of the pole as this shows, so I’m not so sure it’s a good idea.

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I replaced the old tent poles. Then I had a brain wave. Why not use one of the ubiquitous Alpkit clippers on the guy tie out so that the end tent rubber can be attached, lifting the bottom of the flysheet. This seems like a more elegant solution.

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From the end.

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 I can’t tell you whether it is effective or not, but it should provide some decent ventilation.

The next tweak was to the pole hood adjustment that I’ve made with the line-loks. The one big drawback to this arrangement is that the lines often get twisted and it can take a couple of attempts to get the cords positioned correctly. The solution is to use more Alpkit clippers so the lines are secured to these rather than the tape loops provided as shown below. If they become twisted, it’s easy to remove them from the clipper and untwist them. I’ve used them on both sides of the tent. I’ve now used all the Aplkit clippers, so I might have to order some more!

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 The last mod to tell you about  is actually one that I did a little while ago. I’ve put some reflective tape around the pole ends, so the tent is easier to spot in the dark with a torch. You can see the tape at the top of the picture above.

I’ve also thought of a way to  mimic the pole guy line arrangement of the Akto, but that will have to wait another day.

 

16 thoughts on “Yet more Comp mods”

  1. Always interested to see your Laser Comp mods! Gives me things to think about and try out. Not sure that I like the look of that extended end pole though – looks about to burst through.

    1. It was worth trying the extended pole, but the new venting tweak means I don’t need to use it.

  2. When I awoke to this problem in the dark, I thought about it for a minute and realised that when the tapes are tensioned, there is always a good few inches protruding, enough to simply tie a knot near the end of each tape. That leaves an inch to get hold of and plenty left for the travel.

    What bugs me is that they detensioned in the first place, another case of TN going too far with the minimalism. The tape is too thin and doesn’t have enough bite in the buckle thingy. The connector is too small and flimsy too.

    1. I’ve had the same problem before. The loop makes adjustment much easier and you don’t have to be a contortionist!

  3. You mentioned earlier about the door threshold cord, which I have considered and will possibly due. However, I was not quite sure why it was necessary given that there is a slide release buckle connecting the pole side to the door section. I wondered if this was a new addition. I have already thought about the venting arrangement shown above, seems like a good idea to me too. Keep those ideas flowing.

    1. The door threshold cord prevents the door zip getting over stressed. When the door is closed, the hook and loop at the bottom takes the strain. However, when the door is open, closing it again puts a lot of strain on the zip. The threshold cord minimizes this (it’s the same idea as the Akto). Even using this, you need to be careful not to over-stress the zip. Apparently the newer style Lasers have a different style of fastner at the bottom of the door, but they’ll still have the stress problem.

  4. Robin you mention the pole hood lines getting twisted, I assume you leave the cover attached when taking the tent down ?

    Ive yet to take mine off as I dont fancy fiddling with the ties each time ?

    1. I leave the pole cover attached, but you have to be careful when you thread the pole to make sure the cords are correctly positioned otherwise one crosses in front of the pole. With the clipper, if this happens, you just rearrange by unclipping the cord.

  5. I have tried experimenting with ventilating the end of the comp as you have. Have a go at folding the end inside and attaching the elastic to the clip on the end pole tensioner. Looks nice and neat. Did this on a wild camp Sat nigh on the end facing the breeze. That side was dry in the morning whilst the end not ventilated above my head was dripping in condensation by morning. Should have done both ends for a bit of through breeze!

  6. With all these mods, you’ll soon have a tent as good as the Akto. Ah, I’ve mentioned that before, haven’t I :o) .

  7. Very nice blog. Also the Modifications. I own an Akto and a Laser Comp and running into the same frustration as you. The door guyline is a good one i hadn’t thought off.
    I’ve fixed venting problem in another way so there’s more and variable venting possible from the inside.
    I’ve started my own blog and the venting system is my first real entry with photo’s of the system. have a look at http://colorablelife.blogspot.com.
    Let me know what you think.
    Greatings and happy hiking
    Luc

  8. Hi,

    First time posting, I have noticed on other forums about the tensioning tape slipping in the inner being a bit of a pain.

    After a bit of experimenting I found that if you re thread the tape back through the buckle it provides sudfficient grip and the tapes seems to stay in place, so far it has worked ok for me.

    1. Yes, I have used a re-threaded configuration that I heard someone call “double-pathing”. Its really hard to describe but easy to draw, and ends up with the tape gripping itself very effectively. Its only shortcoming is that its almost impossble to loosen the tension with the tent erected, unless its dry and you can get outside, unclip the buckle and fiddle with it. Although, I can’t imagine why loosening would ever be necessary once the right tension was found.

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